AWA update / Thanks for your emails

[admin]

Just thought we should give you an update on the WWE vs AWA situation, as a few fans had emailed and inquired about this.

Q: Is the AWA ok?
A : Absolutely! ;D

*As the genuine legal owner of the AWA (including the logo), Dale Gagne counter sued the WWE a few days ago, as the WWE has been using the AWA logo (although different in color) without permission among various other issues.

Re: The question about how Dale Gagne isn't who he says he is:
*To answer your many email questions regarding Dale's name and relationship to Verne Gagne, it is true that his real name is indeed, Gagner (with an "r"), and he is not really Verne Gagne's son or nephew (that's just a "gimmick" persona). However, although distant, both Dale and Verne do share the same family tree lineage. That is a fact that can be proved.

The easiest way to explain this would be to take a look at the Maivia family name and the Maiava family name. Much like that, they are in fact related, although the family names are spelled just a little differently. This Gagner / Gagne difference could be due to a lot of reasons, ie: immigrations misspelling when the family first moved over to Canada from France (they are French Canadian), or when they came over to America, and /or spelling errors in other "official" government paperwork. (Who knows... In that case, maybe Verne Gagne's name is spelled wrong, and Dale's got the right "original" spelling. We don't know, but that's something that may be pulled from a geneology search.

The AWA believes to have a very strong case and HCW is not worried at all. We are also very confident about our own unique identity at the same time as we always were from the day we decided to support the AWA.

The WWE vs AWA matter will take a while to settle, but the AWA is not going to back down and it certainly isn't crawling into a hole, just because Dale is choosing to face Vince quietly without turning this into a dog and pony show. While Dale is focused on the matter at hand, the new AWA President, Danny Wenkle is doing a super job keeping things together. The AWA is a GREAT bunch.

The AWA Board Of Directors have regular meetings via conference calls, and next week they will have another conference call to discuss updates on the case, as well as the many great projects that are in the works as we speak.

HCW has a lot to be thankful for... great wrestlers, great fans, great affiliation(s), and a very optimistic future!

Thank you ALL for your concerns. We really appreciate it, and we will make sure to keep you in the loop reagarding this WWE vs AWA legal "talks".

[thewrestlingwizard]

Aw... The Wrestling Wizard like dog and pony shows...

I was at one last night...

Personally, I believe that HCW could stand on its own, if need be. Slapping an AWA or an NWA logo on doesn't do anything other than associate. HCW still needs to wrestle, put on great shows, draw in the fans, give them a bargain, adjust to their reactions, hell, even create something out of their reactions, which I would think is common sense for creative.

Good for Dale for sticking up for himself.

And hats off to HCW for addressing this situation in a professional manner. It's good to see some not lobbing "comments" to others...


Some mature. Some don't.

[admin]

Thank you!! True, and that's why we keep doing what we do!!! ;D

We don't "need" the AWA, but we like them, and for "us" it works, so, it's comfortable, and we like associating with each other, and we certainly don't think negatively about it.

There are a lot of reasons "why" that you will find out later too. Some things, we just don't talk about, but they are all good, and you'll all get to hear about it all in due time! The projects are one thing, but it just "feels" right to be a part of a "global unity" for us, anyway, and laying down the foundations. (Not knocking the way any other promotions run their business. We just do what feels right for "us", that's all.)

It's an exciting time for indy promoters and freelance wrestlers!!! Hawaii does have a good chance to make a difference, and lining up the global players is part of the fun!
Of course, we still need to maintain "quality" here in Hawaii too, but we are happy with our product for the most part (although we ALL could use some improvement in different areas), and will continue to keep making it better and better.
Linda's "finally" got her Hawaii's top picks, and they are almost ready. Behind the scenes, AWA and AWA's extended affiliations (some are even NWA) makes the world seem a little smaller for HCW now, which is not a bad thing, and the direction feels "natural".

I know, you feel differently about the AWA, and that's cool. We never the less, thank you for your opinion tho', wrestlingwizard! We get lots of different views and opinions from a lot of people... ...and all in all, most comments are "positive", so we must be doing something right, right? lol... ...but you're right, we still have to keep doing the shows here, which we LOVE, and the HCW die-hard fans LOVE, and the new trainees LOVE too, so we will!!!

Anyway, we appreciate the fact that we are being talked about and thank you for the conversations. ( You too wrestlingwizard, keep up the good work!!! ;D )

[thewrestlingwizard]

The AWA, much like the NWA now, are sitting around, doing absolutely nothing. That is my problem with them.

Back in the day, you could flip on an AWA show, or an NWA show, a national brand, along with a few other brands, like Georgia Championship Wrestling...

Where has the AWA been?

NWA has been riding the coattails of Wcw, and until recently, TNA, where do they go from here?

Reading an article headlined with WWE vs AWA is, well, almost laughable. Regardless of what's going on, the AWA is an unorganized organization, and falls short to compete on a WWE level.

What is a bit distressing is the fact that, with a little direction, AWA could create a national show...

And here is my plan: Treat it like organized team sports, but on an individual level...

AWA could have their one grand stage. Their main titles. Under this main organization are territories around the country, like, say, AWA Hawaii. Each AWA territory competes locally, with their own brand show, like, HCW...

Each month, the AWA Main Branch scouts talent across the territories, in search of talent to compete on the national level. Each territory can discuss with the Board of Directors their roster to give their own talent a "push" to the BoD.

To have an AWA Hawaii guy invited to the national AWA TV event, would be huge, and would spark interest in the name, and send buyrates to the main show, and perhaps even strengthening the local HCW name, buy increasing fan interest. An AWA Hawaii guy on national TV would bring instant fame towards HCW... The sort of "superstar" status all indy promotions can only dream and gossip about...

Suppose a main event at the AWA Main Event show pits an AWA Hawaii guy up against, say, an AWA Texas guy- for the AWA World Heavyweight Championship.... And the event is held, say, Vegas... (this would be most logical spot, as Hawaii has great deals to Vegas, and Texas is a short trip from there...

This would also entice fans, both from Texas AND Hawaii, to maybe make a trip out to see this show and support their hometown guy...

I could go on forever about this: but I'll stop here... It's a small taste of what thinking big is all about.

I think HCW is a great promotion, and is on the right track... We all know that... Now let's move on and do something BIGGER, something BETTER....

HCW is branching out- sending guys out for exposure... That's what needs to be done. Bringing people in is nice, but it needs to lead to something.

So I look forward to the bright future...

[admin]

Well, actually, the AWA isn't just sitting around doing nothing, but you're right, these are not the good old days, and you can't utilize their affialtion in the same way, is all.

Those are solid ideas, wrestlingwizard, and in fact, all those things are actually already being considered through the "right" people. They just don't come on a message board to discuss real business but...Our main goal is to put "our" best foot forward, and we feel optimistic in getting there, that's all!

Well, you have a great day now!!! ;D

[thewrestlingwizard]

admin said:

Well, actually, the AWA isn't just sitting around doing nothing, but you're right, these are not the good old days, and you can't utilize their affialtion in the same way, is all.

Those are solid ideas, wrestlingwizard, and in fact, all those things are actually already being considered through the "right" people. They just don't come on a message board to discuss real business but...Our main goal is to put "our" best foot forward, and we feel optimistic in getting there, that's all!

Well, you have a great day now!!! ;D

HCW aside for a moment, since this was to be about the AWA.

I am blown away by your assessment that AWA hasn't been sitting around doing nothing. Sure, the old days are gone, but the Television is still here. And, to the best of my knowledge, the last AWA show I saw on TV was... in 1991.

Dale has been running with the AWA banner since 1996, I think... That's 11 years in my 2nd math class. 11 years, with a world-wide known logo, and still no television.

And, while it's good to know from you that someone, somewhere, is actually talking about doing some of the things I've happened to mention, my interest in the success of professional wrestling is what drives my determination to let the word out that people with the power need to do something with it, for the benefit of the business as a whole.

And, of course, suits and ties don't come on message boards to discuss their next big move or plan... that's silly.

BUT------------------------------------------
... And I know this for a fact:

Don't think for ONE SECOND, that those same suits and ties aren't spying around on message boards, videos, results pages, wrestler pages...

So---> instead of taking the time to write to those who may be interested, placing it in certain areas around the web have the potential of being picked up by a passing of prying eyes...

...Don't believe? Here's a prime example; you'll catch it on Saturday Night's Main Event... Just pay attention, and you'll see.

Numerous things from Hawaii over the years have been "used" by WWE...

I'm unclear as to how many people actually realize this.

Back to AWA, I guess I just wish they would do something that would excite the wrestling world at large. There are many decent territories; and I believe are much more organized than the NWA. But it feels like a distant relationship with AWA. There's no one show to tie it all together.

And, I should mention that I got an email from someone this morning about my mentioning the whole home-based promotional wars...

I was to mention, in addition, that someone mentioned awhile back that Hawaii would be a great testing ground for that sort of outlet...

Having one promotion, made up of the "all-stars" of the three Hawaii promotions, in a unique type of company, run by an uninterested party.

Professional Wrestling Promotional Wars...

On Tour...

AWA Hawaii -vs- AWA Brew City

Held in Boston, MA, and both teams get attacked by the AWA World Tag-Team Champions, who happen to be from AWA New England...

Just something to throw out there for the fun of it.

Dream big.

And, back to reality, no matter what AWA does or doesn't do, it does come down to what HCW does; and that's what cannot be forgotten...

For the good of the business and the fans. It's great we are allowed a vehicle in which we can speak our mind, without censorship, in a civilized manner, whether in agreement or not.

Sadly, I would speak on the other Hawaii wrestling boards, but one is simply foolish, and the other is in dire need of resuscitation.

So, it it here where the Wrestling Wizard will lay out his visions.

[admin]

Well... Bill Cosby once said, "I don't know what the secret to success is, but the way to failure is to try to please EVERYONE." ...which we think makes sense...

What are you talking about? lol...
The AWA most certainly isn't just sitting around doing nothing! lol ... Maybe the US might be a bit slow, but AWA Japan is seen as ZERO1-MAX in Japan and on TV reguarly!!! The World Heavyweight Champion, Omori defends his title on TV, and the new sister promotion SUN has the top AWA joshi wrestler! ZERO1-MAX's Amazing Kong "won" the AWA vs NWA title match. Yes, we (the AWA) have the NWA title right now (via ZERO1-MAX)! The TV part is already in the laps of the "right" people. We just choose not to talk about these things here.

We can only see how history unfolds itself and try to "nudge" history to our advantage and do what we LOVE doing at the same time. I know HCW has had it's ups and downs, but things seem to fall into place if you just let it, and keep working on your big GOAL...what ever yours might be. That is what we are doing now, and if that is not sufficient to YOU, then Oh Well...We just keep moving forward anyways...

The BIGGER picture only happens when the littler ones fall into place first, which it is...and this also has a lot to do with people "catching" on to "our" bigger picture and recognizing it, while we continue to build ourselves and embrace the evolution "with" what's going on on the "outside". This btw, also has to do with our TV project. I know you want it "now", but we're going to do this right, and we mean it.

I don't really know what else to tell you, but it's not at all like the way things were back in the day, that's for sure! There is a good reason why AWA Japan has the World and Women's Titles now.

Remember, everyone wants to be cost effective. That is the reality now, but the direction that things are moving now, makes for people like us to be able to scratch some influential backs and get scratches back (because we are influential back to them). We are confident and sincere about this. We would rather thank our lucky stars and continue to be productive so that we can help the business, by becoming solid from the "inside" simultaniously, but NEVER lose sight of our "own" goal(s)... that's all...

We are not knocking anyone else's dreams... GO FOR IT!!! ;D We want all your dreams and goals to come true, and if there is anything "specific" you need from us, you know where we are! You have the email address, since we NEVER discuss real serious business on a message board, and we thank you in advance for "respecting" that. ;D

Have a great day!
Thanks again for your very heartfelt post, never the less, wrestlingwizard!

[kazz]

admin said:

Well... Bill Cosby once said, "I don't know what the secret to success is, but the way to failure is to try to please EVERYONE."

I thought Bill Cosby said he hates Dave Chappelle?

[admin]

LOL!!! ;D
I wasn't aware of that one, but that's a good one REF KAZZ!!!

Hey, I love Dave Chappelle!!! "I'm Rick James, B*tch!" HAAAAA!!!!!

[thewrestlingwizard]

kazz said:

admin said:

Well... Bill Cosby once said, "I don't know what the secret to success is, but the way to failure is to try to please EVERYONE."

I thought Bill Cosby said he hates Dave Chappelle?

Mencia... dee dee dee... just like Kazz' responses to everything.


Some things will never change I guess.

I'm glad HCW is changing for the better....

Always "evolving"

But... zebras are part of the horse family...

And, there's no sense beating a dead one.

I'll go write to Apter's mailbag and bother him........



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[thegreatzero]

Good idea. Bill Apter loves fan mail. I always bother him too.